Friday, May 9, 2014

Strange interaction between the Red Card and Moxie

In the comments to yesterday's post, Looneyman asked me about a glitch (at least that's what I think it is) involving the Red Card and Moxie that he ran into on Showdown. Here's the replay:

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/randomdoublesbattle-118247578

So on turn 5, Pyroar uses Hyper Voice, damaging both Hawlucha and Golduck. However, Hawlucha was holding a Red Card, and since it was the first Pokémon to be damaged, the Red Card took effect, replacing Pyroar with Noivern. THEN Hyper Voice's damage was applied to Golduck, which fainted. Normally, this means that since Pyroar had Moxie, it would get an attack boost - however, it was replaced by Noivern during the attack, and somehow Moxie's attack boost applied to Noivern. This suggests that if the Moxie user lands a kill with an attack, the attack boost is still given even if the user is no longer on the field because of the Red Card.

So the question I want to ask is this: does anyone know if it's a glitch with Showdown, or does it also exist in cartridge play? I suggested Looneyman that he should take this matter to Smogon or the Showdown forums, but I wondered if anyone here had a clue.

10 comments:

  1. My 600+ hours culminating in cartridge X (Yeah I play competitive on a cartridge, sue me) got erased in a save data corruption, so I can't really test it, but I would try it out with some people had it not. Hard to say if there is an error in Showdown or no difference, really.

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    1. "My 600+ hours culminating in cartridge X got erased in a save data corruption"
      .....WHAT?! How? Don't tell me that can STILL happen at random. Did you drop your 3DS, or did the aforementioned event actually happen? If it's the latter, then.... *facepalm* Game Freak... I really hope it's not what I fear.

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    2. Similar thing happened to me only it was my whole 3DS. NEVER make your main file your digital copy...

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  2. The following comment is something I would have preferred sending you as a PM if it was possible and if I knew how:

    You know, I thought I had seen everything, but I just watched a video during which a guy complained that stalling is way too overpowered in competitive Pokémon and makes battles boring. And he wasn't talking about stuff falling under the Endless Battle Clause. First time I've heard that one. Usually I see complain about the metagame being way too offensively-inclined.

    Also, I learned today that a massive outrage had taken place at Nintendo's expense over how the game Tomodachi Life didn't include the possibility of same sex relationship. I do personally know an actual gay couple and their only reaction has been "Uh, this sucks. Oh well.". I understand how they could be upset over this, but geez. No need to go this far. Just leaving negative comments would have been fine, no need to start an uproar.

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    1. In terms of stalling, it really depends on if you have something that can counter the staller in question. For example: I dread facing Gliscor. That falls to special Water, Ice, or really strong moves...
      In terms of the Tomodachi thing...People also wanted to censor the word "nigger" in Huckleberry Finn...

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    2. People get prejudiced, if not killed, over their sexual preferences in real life, and social justice warriors bitch and moan over a video game. PRIORITIES!

      I take it whoever was complaining about stall hasn't played Pokémon since 2001, because that's the last time it was the dominant playstile. Either that, or players with a ranking of 1100 can't use sweepers worth shit in general.

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    3. Ah, double standards. Ordinary people will find any excuse they can to hate something...

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    4. Maybe he's playing against people that forgot double team and minimize is banned. Or is just bad in general and doesn't know how to bring a pokemon with Taunt.

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  3. The "preview" Was a troll they just showed groudon and kyogre poping out of the water and said more will come next week

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